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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:08 pm    Post subject: Understanding Bottlenecks Reply with quote

Wondering why that brand new Ti4600 is running as fast as your old GeForce DDR? No, it's not the videocard.

http://www.viperlair.com/articles/editorial/bottlenecks.htm



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i currently have an amd 1 ghz athlon 266 FSB with a geForce2 GTS 32 meg. with that CPU, does it make sense to upgrade to geForce4 Ti 4200? 64 megs or 128 megs make a difference?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will notice a difference, as that CPU is still failry powerful. I would go with whatever vid card you cann afford, and then upgrade the CPU.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 64 - 128MB will make a difference depending on the resolution and detail level you play at. 10x8 gaming, I doubt you'll notice much. It really will depend on the game.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tks for the input, guys. after much heart rending and soul searching, i ordered a 64 meg gainward geForce 4 Ti 4200 for $122. it just seemed like the most punch for the buck. wish me luck...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great card, you should be happy.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article, although n00bish, was informative. It was a little surprising to see the MX440 bottleneck the CPU at this stage of the game.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill3 wrote:
tks for the input, guys. after much heart rending and soul searching, i ordered a 64 meg gainward geForce 4 Ti 4200 for $122. it just seemed like the most punch for the buck. wish me luck...


Where'd you buy it from?
I'm holding out for the Radeon 9500 (Pro possibly).Who knows..if I manage to gather enough money by December,I might even consider buying the NV30.However I have a Willamette (1.6 Ghz),so that might just prove to be the bottleneck.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno much about the nv30, other than the rumors, but I'll bet that card will cost a lot of green. I think the 9500 will make a fine card, assuming it'll be piced right.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Radeon 9500 is prolly gonna cost around 170$ and the 9500 Pro 200$+.

And as for the NV30,fuck yeah that card'll cost a lot.I'm expecting a starting price of atleast 350$+ ,400$ at the most.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went and did everything backasswards. I'm running an old KT133 with 256 PC133 and an Athalon 550 Classic, I went and bought a Radeon 8500 and a Samsung 955DF. The logic behind that was I figured I may as well stare at better graphics until I can afford to upgrade the rest of the system. As it stands right now the 8500 is pushing on a rope.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RDX - i just went to pricewatch.com and got the cheapest gainward listed that matched my specs. it happened to be from SRSystems in idaho! it's a stripped down card: only CRT; no TV or DVI out; ; no bundled games or anything. a card just for 3D games. i've had good luck buying parts by following links from pricewatch. got a nice mobo and chip; my last videocard; added some RAM. once from monarchcomputers; once from augustuscomputers. so far for me, pricewatch works good if you know what you're looking for...


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is this card must be OEM and not retail,right?



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's advertised as retail


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great bargain then!



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